Peter Tessier: Ladd Trade not About Cap or Player It happened and in Winnipeg there's some outrage and some sadness from the masses but this trade was for a bigger reason.

Was Ladd asking for $7+ mill per year?

Was Ladd asking for $7+ mill per year?
- Leniwm1

Last 'known' ask was 6 years 6 million per by the Jets. Rumours from 'insiders' had them at around 750k apart. That would mean the ask by Ladd was basically what Kesler got in the summer if accurate.

I for one am not buying the fact he wanted to stay here. No player, a captain for that matter is going to come out say, "I have every intention of testing the market as a UFA" I find it interesting that his wife and himself have made so many formal goodbyes and thank you's, Its not like Chicago has signed him already. He could be re-signed in the summer if both parties were interested. I dont believe Ladd wanted to be here unless we severly overpaid! He wanted at least 6.5 for 6 years, lets see how close he comes to getting that and when he doesn't and still signs somewhere else for significantly less, please get ready for I told you so.

overall, no complaints on the trade from me, Chevy got exactly what he wanted, a top prospect and first rounder. Also please stop with well it'll probably be 29 or 30....who cares!! its a first rounder and the difference between 20-40 ( where we will have 2 selections ) is minimal.

I am really happy with the deal. I think it is about time that the Jets move on from the core they inherited from Atlanta.

Just looking at Dano's stats, the kid had 21 points in 35 games last year for Columbus. I think being part of a young team like Winnipeg, he could do wonders. Just watching Armia and seeing how he is improving by playing with the big club, makes me have confidence in Chevy's ability to assess young talent. However, I do believe he needs to do more to get rid of the rest of the Atlanta holdovers.

Looking forward to seeing what Kyle Connor, Jack Roslovic, Brendan Lemieux, Nic Petan, Josh Morrissey add to the roster in the coming years.

And Peter, what did you think of my potential trade with Edmonton (if they get the first overall pick) that I proposed yesterday?

To EDM: Jacob Trouba, Mark Stuart, Nik Petan, 2016 Winnipeg 1st round pick, 2016 Winnipeg 2nd round pick

To WPG: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Nail Yakapov, Edmonton's 1st round pick

Chicago is going for another cup, I get it. But Winnipeg wins this deal all day long!

UltimateJet:

No way Jets are getting Edmonton's 1st. Your proposed trade is too big to happen.

I am really happy with the deal. I think it is about time that the Jets move on from the core they inherited from Atlanta.

Just looking at Dano's stats, the kid had 21 points in 35 games last year for Columbus. I think being part of a young team like Winnipeg, he could do wonders. Just watching Armia and seeing how he is improving by playing with the big club, makes me have confidence in Chevy's ability to assess young talent. However, I do believe he needs to do more to get rid of the rest of the Atlanta holdovers.

Looking forward to seeing what Kyle Connor, Jack Roslovic, Brendan Lemieux, Nic Petan, Josh Morrissey add to the roster in the coming years.

And Peter, what did you think of my potential trade with Edmonton (if they get the first overall pick) that I proposed yesterday?

To EDM: Jacob Trouba, Mark Stuart, Nik Petan, 2016 Winnipeg 1st round pick, 2016 Winnipeg 2nd round pick

To WPG: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Nail Yakapov, Edmonton's 1st round pick
- TheUltimateJet

Honestly, I don't think the Jets need to get the number one pick if they are in the top 5 after lottery. Oilers need to change some things but they are in a position of weakness. I believe they feel they will pull out of their problems so therefor have not bitten on any deal offered to them because it under values their assets. This one doesn't make sense to me because where does Nuge play? 3rd line C? That ain't going to fly here.

Great summary Pete. This is a solid deal for both sides but you have to give credit to Chevy. Even from a budget perspective - adding Fraser and Harrison means Chevy actually added about $100k in budget from this deal. Stan is eating $1.7m in salary in the AHL to get the Jets to take back $1.58 in cap hit.

Dano has been forced out of position his entire time in Chicago. Putting him back at RW should help him a lot. Injuries are probably the greatest concern - he takes a lot of punishment playing his style. Knee surgery, concussions and shoulder issues already but he could be a solid NHLer for years.

Pete,

What do you think the Maata deal means for negotiations with Trouba? Its along the same lines as Klingberg's. Do you think we can sign Trouba for 6 years at 5 million per?

You guys cleaned up on that deal for a guy who was going to play another 3 months to land a 1st and guy who is probably going to be in your top 6 for the next 7-10 years. The hawks know they only have a few years left so they are going all in and you cant hate them for that either.

Pete,

What do you think the Maata deal means for negotiations with Trouba? Its along the same lines as Klingberg's. Do you think we can sign Trouba for 6 years at 5 million per?
- RFawkes

They have to do a bridge deal because Trouba hasnt proven anything. The money he is rumored for is crazy. If you could try and land the Nuge for him I do that all day.

Well said Pete. One of your best blogs that I have read.

I think Chevy did very well on this one.

Speaking of Armia, that move on Oduya was awesome. The Dallas broadcaster calling for some ointment for Johnny was priceless.

Honestly, I don't think the Jets need to get the number one pick if they are in the top 5 after lottery. Oilers need to change some things but they are in a position of weakness. I believe they feel they will pull out of their problems so therefor have not bitten on any deal offered to them because it under values their assets. This one doesn't make sense to me because where does Nuge play? 3rd line C? That ain't going to fly here.
- Peter.Tessier

Actually Peter,

My lines would like:

Mathews-RNH-Wheeler
Ehlers-Scheifle-Yakapov
Armia-Little-Perrault
Lemieux-Lowry-Dano

Players like Thorburn, Burmsitrov, and Pelusso would probably all have to be moved.

UltimateJet:

No way Jets are getting Edmonton's 1st. Your proposed trade is too big to happen.
- Leafsandbolts

It's okay to dream!

Chicago is going for another cup, I get it. But Winnipeg wins this deal all day long!

-DouglasFir

It is currently really, really, tough to crack Chicago's lineup as a Right Wing. Stan's choice was to let the kid spoil in our system, or get what he needed right now. Winnipeg definitely gains the most future value (unrealized, so with risk), but it's not like Chicago lost. Unless Hossa pulls up lame and can't go anymore (also, a risk at this point)... Good luck to Dano and the Jets. Pleasure doing business with you guys.

You guys cleaned up on that deal for a guy who was going to play another 3 months to land a 1st and guy who is probably going to be in your top 6 for the next 7-10 years. The hawks know they only have a few years left so they are going all in and you cant hate them for that either.
- mauryballstein

Realistically, Dano looks more like a top 9 player but could be better. His production - even in the AHL - tanked this year but IMO that was from the position change. The consensus after getting a look at him against NHL competition in Chicago was the knee surgery may have impacted his skating some and he was really having problems playing LW vs RW. He also took some vicious hits at both the AHL and NHL level. Concussions may be an issue.

UltimateJet:

No way Jets are getting Edmonton's 1st. Your proposed trade is too big to happen.
- Leafsandbolts

I absolutely believe if the Oilers win the draft lottery the first overall is in play and if we wanted to trade Trouba straight up for it, Oilers would take it and not ask for anything else. I just think we do not need 2 centers, and anther winger in Yak. I'd be interested in one of Mathews or RNH but not both and definetly not Yak.

Realistically, Dano looks more like a top 9 player but could be better. His production - even in the AHL - tanked this year but IMO that was from the position change. The consensus after getting a look at him against NHL competition in Chicago was the knee surgery may have impacted his skating some and he was really having problems playing LW vs RW. He also took some vicious hits at both the AHL and NHL level. Concussions may be an issue.
- tredbrta

Wasnt aware of the injuries I liked him in columbus. Like I said a win win for both teams. If im the hawks im going all in every year until the wheels totally fall off. Even if you dont win another cup you guys have had an unreal few years but now go get hamhuis so can get his ring too

off topic a bit but what would jets fans think of an edler for trouba as the main parts to a trade. looks you guys have lots of rightys and the canucks are more full at left. thoughts?

It is funny that there are Jets fans that would be upset with this deal. A prospect and a 1st was the expected return for a top rental player and they not only got it but also ended up with a top end prospect that is NHL ready. They won this deal hard.

If anyone other than Chicago pulled this deal I would say they massively overpaid. The Hawks have the advantage of being able to say "well we paid a lot but at least we went for it again" (if they lose) and no one will care what they lost. If a team like Detroit gave up that much future for Ladd only to lose imagine the backlash.

Awesome deal for Winnipeg and a solid get for Chicago.

off topic a bit but what would jets fans think of an edler for trouba as the main parts to a trade. looks you guys have lots of rightys and the canucks are more full at left. thoughts?
- mauryballstein

I wouldn't have interest unless we are getting something significant other than Edler, I dont have an issue with Edler or his contract but he's 29 and trouba is 22 with huge upside and team control. If Seth Jones nets Ryan Johansen, I'm not interested in edler for Trouba

I am really happy with the deal. I think it is about time that the Jets move on from the core they inherited from Atlanta.

Just looking at Dano's stats, the kid had 21 points in 35 games last year for Columbus. I think being part of a young team like Winnipeg, he could do wonders. Just watching Armia and seeing how he is improving by playing with the big club, makes me have confidence in Chevy's ability to assess young talent. However, I do believe he needs to do more to get rid of the rest of the Atlanta holdovers.

Looking forward to seeing what Kyle Connor, Jack Roslovic, Brendan Lemieux, Nic Petan, Josh Morrissey add to the roster in the coming years.

And Peter, what did you think of my potential trade with Edmonton (if they get the first overall pick) that I proposed yesterday?

To EDM: Jacob Trouba, Mark Stuart, Nik Petan, 2016 Winnipeg 1st round pick, 2016 Winnipeg 2nd round pick

To WPG: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Nail Yakapov, Edmonton's 1st round pick
- TheUltimateJet

Yikes that is bad for Edmonton. They have no reason to pull this off. The swap of 1sts is irrelevant at this point and is too risky for both sides with the lottery and the uncertainty of who will finish lower in the standings. But looking at the rest of the deal, why would Edmonton give up TWO former 1st overall picks (I don't care how much Yakupov's value dropped he isn't being moved for scrap) for Trouba and some depth pieces that likely don't become anything special.

A deal surrounding Nuge and Trouba could happen but as it was said here about Trouba needing a bridge deal because he hasn't proven anything yet, he alone won't even be close to getting it done. Maybe if it was Trouba, CHI 2016 1st, and a great prospect they might be interested but I would never move Nuge for any unknown factor even if it is the difference of getting a top 2 or top 4 defender.

Wasnt aware of the injuries I liked him in columbus. Like I said a win win for both teams. If im the hawks im going all in every year until the wheels totally fall off. Even if you dont win another cup you guys have had an unreal few years but now go get hamhuis so can get his ring too
- mauryballstein

The wheels are nowhere close to falling off yet and they may be able to remain a contender until Kane and Toews are in their 30s. Stan added a lottery choice in Panarin and 1st round level talents in Gustafson and TVR. All are on the roster now at no cost in draft picks.

They have 2 of the top NCAA scorers in Motte and Schmaltz. Motte has more goals now than Gadreau and Eichel had their final years. A little surprised Chevy didn't want Motte as he is Kyle Connor's linemate but Stan may actually value him more than Dano. Lots of depth in their system and there isn't a team more active in amateur free agency. Forsling looking pretty solid too (thanks Benning).

Keith is a freak of nature. I doubt he ages badly. Seabs is more at risk of a big drop off with age. Hammer is only 25.

Yikes that is bad for Edmonton. They have no reason to pull this off. The swap of 1sts is irrelevant at this point and is too risky for both sides with the lottery and the uncertainty of who will finish lower in the standings. But looking at the rest of the deal, why would Edmonton give up TWO former 1st overall picks (I don't care how much Yakupov's value dropped he isn't being moved for scrap) for Trouba and some depth pieces that likely don't become anything special.

A deal surrounding Nuge and Trouba could happen but as it was said here about Trouba needing a bridge deal because he hasn't proven anything yet, he alone won't even be close to getting it done. Maybe if it was Trouba, CHI 2016 1st, and a great prospect they might be interested but I would never move Nuge for any unknown factor even if it is the difference of getting a top 2 or top 4 defender.
- Steven_Dean

I was agreeing with your first paragraph that it made no sense for Edmonton but then you totally lost me on your second. Trouba is worth every bit of RNH right now if not more. The Preds may have turned down RNH straight up for Jones when Johansen was offered why would the Jets be adding to Trouba?